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13. Reporting bugs
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<label class="ocn"><a name="571" href="#571" class="lnkocn">571</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o571">
Debian Live is far from being perfect, but we want to make it as close as possible to perfect - with your help. Do not hesitate to report a bug: it is better to fill a report twice than never. However, this chapter includes recommendations how to file good bug reports.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="572" href="#572" class="lnkocn">572</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o572">
For the impatient:
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<label class="ocn"><a name="573" href="#573" class="lnkocn">573</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o573">
Always check first the image status updates on our homepage at ‹<a href="http://live.debian.net/" target="_top">http://live.debian.net/</a>› for known issues.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="574" href="#574" class="lnkocn">574</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o574">
Always try to reproduce the bug with the <b>most recent versions</b> of <i>live-build</i>, <i>live-boot</i>, and <i>live-config</i> before submitting a bug report.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="575" href="#575" class="lnkocn">575</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o575">
Try to give <b>as specific information as possible</b> about the bug. This includes (at least) the version of <i>live-build</i>, <i>live-boot</i>, and <i>live-config</i> used and the distribution of the live system you are building.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="576" href="#576" class="lnkocn">576</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o576"><a name="576"></a> <a name="h13.1" id="h13.1"></a>
<a name="13.1" ></a><a name="h13.1" ></a>13.1 Known issues
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<label class="ocn"><a name="577" href="#577" class="lnkocn">577</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o577">
Because Debian <b>testing</b> and Debian <b>unstable</b> distributions are a moving target, when you specify either as the target system distribution, a successful build may not always be possible.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="578" href="#578" class="lnkocn">578</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o578">
If this causes too much difficulty for you, do not build a system based on <b>testing</b> or <b>unstable</b>, but rather, use <b>stable</b>. <i>live-build</i> does always default to the <b>stable</b> release.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="579" href="#579" class="lnkocn">579</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o579">
Currently known issues are listed under the section 'status' on our homepage at ‹<a href="http://live.debian.net/" target="_top">http://live.debian.net/</a>›.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="580" href="#580" class="lnkocn">580</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o580">
It is out of the scope of this manual to train you to correctly identify and fix problems in packages of the development distributions, however, there are two things you can always try: If a build fails when the target distribution is <b>testing</b>, try <b>unstable</b>. If <b>unstable</b> does not work either, revert to <b>testing</b> and pin the newer version of the failing package from <b>unstable</b> (see <a href="customizing-package-installation.html#apt-pinning">APT pinning</a> for details).
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<label class="ocn"><a name="581" href="#581" class="lnkocn">581</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o581"><a name="581"></a> <a name="h13.2" id="h13.2"></a>
<a name="13.2" ></a><a name="h13.2" ></a>13.2 Rebuild from scratch
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<label class="ocn"><a name="582" href="#582" class="lnkocn">582</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o582">
To ensure that a particular bug is not caused by an uncleanly built system, please always rebuild the whole live system from scratch to see if the bug is reproducible.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="583" href="#583" class="lnkocn">583</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o583"><a name="583"></a> <a name="h13.3" id="h13.3"></a>
<a name="13.3" ></a><a name="h13.3" ></a>13.3 Use up-to-date packages
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<label class="ocn"><a name="584" href="#584" class="lnkocn">584</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o584">
Using outdated packages can cause significant problems when trying to reproduce (and ultimately fix) your problem. Make sure your build system is up-to-date and any packages included in your image are up-to-date as well.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="585" href="#585" class="lnkocn">585</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o585"><a name="585"></a> <a name="hcollect-information" id="hcollect-information"></a>
<a name="h13.4" ></a><a name="collect-information" ></a>13.4 Collect information
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<label class="ocn"><a name="586" href="#586" class="lnkocn">586</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o586">
Please provide enough information with your report. At least include the exact version of <i>live-build</i> version where the bug is encountered and steps to reproduce it. Please use common sense and include other relevant information if you think that it might help in solving the problem.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="587" href="#587" class="lnkocn">587</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o587">
To make the most out of your bug report, we require at least the following information:
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<label class="ocn"><a name="588" href="#588" class="lnkocn">588</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o588">
Architecture of the host system
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<label class="ocn"><a name="589" href="#589" class="lnkocn">589</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o589">
Version of <i>live-build</i> on the host system
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<label class="ocn"><a name="590" href="#590" class="lnkocn">590</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o590">
Version of <i>live-boot</i> on the live system
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<label class="ocn"><a name="591" href="#591" class="lnkocn">591</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o591">
Version of <i>live-config</i> on the live system
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<label class="ocn"><a name="592" href="#592" class="lnkocn">592</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o592">
Version of <tt>debootstrap</tt> and/or <tt>cdebootstrap</tt> on the host system
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<label class="ocn"><a name="593" href="#593" class="lnkocn">593</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o593">
Architecture of the live system
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<label class="ocn"><a name="594" href="#594" class="lnkocn">594</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o594">
Distribution of the live system
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<label class="ocn"><a name="595" href="#595" class="lnkocn">595</a></label>
<li class="bullet" id="o595">
Version of the kernel on the live system
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<label class="ocn"><a name="596" href="#596" class="lnkocn">596</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o596">
You can generate a log of the build process by using the <tt>tee</tt> command. We recommend doing this automatically with an <tt>auto/build</tt> script; (see <a href="managing-a-configuration.html#managing-a-configuration">Managing a configuration</a> for details).
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<label class="ocn"><a name="597" href="#597" class="lnkocn">597</a></label>
<p class="code" id="o597">
# lb build 2>&1 | tee build.log<br /><br />
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<label class="ocn"><a name="598" href="#598" class="lnkocn">598</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o598">
At boot time, <i>live-boot</i> stores a log in <tt>/var/log/live.log</tt> (or <tt>/var/log/live-boot.log</tt>).
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<label class="ocn"><a name="599" href="#599" class="lnkocn">599</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o599">
Additionally, to rule out other errors, it is always a good idea to tar up your <tt>config/</tt> directory and upload it somewhere (do <b>not</b> send it as an attachment to the mailing list), so that we can try to reproduce the errors you encountered. If this is difficult (e.g. due to size) you can use the output of <tt>lb config --dump</tt> which produces a summary of your config tree (i.e. lists files in subdirectories of <tt>config/</tt> but does not include them).
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<label class="ocn"><a name="600" href="#600" class="lnkocn">600</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o600">
Remember to send in any logs that were produced with English locale settings, e.g. run your <i>live-build</i> commands with a leading <tt>LC_ALL=C</tt> or <tt>LC_ALL=en_US</tt>.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="601" href="#601" class="lnkocn">601</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o601"><a name="601"></a> <a name="h13.5" id="h13.5"></a>
<a name="13.5" ></a><a name="h13.5" ></a>13.5 Isolate the failing case if possible
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<label class="ocn"><a name="602" href="#602" class="lnkocn">602</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o602">
If possible, isolate the failing case to the smallest possible change that breaks. It is not always easy to do this, so if you can't manage it for your report, don't worry. However, if you plan your development cycle well, using small enough change sets per iteration, you may be able to isolate the problem by constructing a simpler 'base' configuration that closely matches your actual configuration plus just the broken change set added to it. If you have a hard time sorting out which of your changes broke, it may be that you are including too much in each change set and should develop in smaller increments.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="603" href="#603" class="lnkocn">603</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o603"><a name="603"></a> <a name="h13.6" id="h13.6"></a>
<a name="13.6" ></a><a name="h13.6" ></a>13.6 Use the correct package to report the bug against
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<label class="ocn"><a name="604" href="#604" class="lnkocn">604</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o604">
Where does the bug appear?
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<label class="ocn"><a name="605" href="#605" class="lnkocn">605</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o605"><a name="605"></a> <a name="h13.6.1" id="h13.6.1"></a>
<a name="13.6.1" ></a><a name="h13.6.1" ></a>13.6.1 At build time whilst bootstrapping
</p>
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<label class="ocn"><a name="606" href="#606" class="lnkocn">606</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o606">
<i>live-build</i> first bootstraps a basic Debian system with <tt>debootstrap</tt> or <tt>cdebootstrap</tt>. Depending on the bootstrapping tool used and the Debian distribution it is bootstrapping, it may fail. If a bug appears here, check if the error is related to a specific Debian package (most likely), or if it is related to bootstrapping tool itself.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="607" href="#607" class="lnkocn">607</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o607">
In both cases, this is not a bug in Debian Live, but rather in Debian itself which we can not fix this directly. Please report such a bug against the bootstrapping tool or the failing package.
</p>
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<label class="ocn"><a name="608" href="#608" class="lnkocn">608</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o608"><a name="608"></a> <a name="h13.6.2" id="h13.6.2"></a>
<a name="13.6.2" ></a><a name="h13.6.2" ></a>13.6.2 At build time whilst installing packages
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<label class="ocn"><a name="609" href="#609" class="lnkocn">609</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o609">
<i>live-build</i> installs additional packages from the Debian archive and depending on the Debian distribution used and the daily archive state, it can fail. If a bug appears here, check if the error is also reproducible on a normal system.
</p>
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<label class="ocn"><a name="610" href="#610" class="lnkocn">610</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o610">
If this is the case, this is not a bug in Debian Live, but rather in Debian - please report it against the failing package. Running <tt>debootstrap</tt> separately from the Live system build or running <tt>lb bootstrap --debug</tt> will give you more information.
</p>
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<label class="ocn"><a name="611" href="#611" class="lnkocn">611</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o611">
Also, if you are using a local mirror and/or any of sort of proxy and you are experiencing a problem, please always reproduce it first by bootstrapping from an official mirror.
</p>
</div><div class="substance">
<label class="ocn"><a name="612" href="#612" class="lnkocn">612</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o612"><a name="612"></a> <a name="h13.6.3" id="h13.6.3"></a>
<a name="13.6.3" ></a><a name="h13.6.3" ></a>13.6.3 At boot time
</p>
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<label class="ocn"><a name="613" href="#613" class="lnkocn">613</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o613">
If your image does not boot, please report it to the mailing list together with the information requested in <a href="bugs.html#collect-information">Collect information</a>. Do not forget to mention, how/when the image failed, in Qemu, Virtualbox, VMWare or real hardware. If you are using a virtualization technology of any kind, please always run it on real hardware before reporting a bug. Providing a screenshot of the failure is also very helpful.
</p>
</div><div class="substance">
<label class="ocn"><a name="614" href="#614" class="lnkocn">614</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o614"><a name="614"></a> <a name="h13.6.4" id="h13.6.4"></a>
<a name="13.6.4" ></a><a name="h13.6.4" ></a>13.6.4 At run time
</p>
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<label class="ocn"><a name="615" href="#615" class="lnkocn">615</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o615">
If a package was successfully installed, but fails while actually running the Live system, this is probably a bug in Debian Live. However,
</p>
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<label class="ocn"><a name="616" href="#616" class="lnkocn">616</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o616"><a name="616"></a> <a name="h13.7" id="h13.7"></a>
<a name="13.7" ></a><a name="h13.7" ></a>13.7 Do the research
</p>
</div><div class="substance">
<label class="ocn"><a name="617" href="#617" class="lnkocn">617</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o617">
Before filing the bug, please search the web for the particular error message or symptom you are getting. As it is highly unlikely that you are the only person experiencing a particular problem, there is always a chance that it has been discussed elsewhere, and a possible solution, patch, or workaround has been proposed.
</p>
</div><div class="substance">
<label class="ocn"><a name="618" href="#618" class="lnkocn">618</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o618">
You should pay particular attention to the Debian Live mailing list, as well as the homepage, as these are likely to contain the most up-to-date information. If such information exists, always include the references to it in your bug report.
</p>
</div><div class="substance">
<label class="ocn"><a name="619" href="#619" class="lnkocn">619</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o619">
In addition, you should check the current bug lists for <i>live-build</i>, <i>live-boot</i>, and <i>live-config</i> to see whether something similar has been reported already.
</p>
</div><div class="substance">
<label class="ocn"><a name="620" href="#620" class="lnkocn">620</a></label>
<p class="bold" id="o620"><a name="620"></a> <a name="h13.8" id="h13.8"></a>
<a name="13.8" ></a><a name="h13.8" ></a>13.8 Where to report bugs
</p>
</div><div class="substance">
<label class="ocn"><a name="621" href="#621" class="lnkocn">621</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o621">
The Debian Live project keeps track of all bugs in the Debian Bug Tracking System (BTS). For information on how to use the system, please see ‹<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/" target="_top">http://bugs.debian.org/</a>›. You can also submit the bugs by using the <tt>reportbug</tt> command from the package with the same name.
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<label class="ocn"><a name="622" href="#622" class="lnkocn">622</a></label>
<p class="i0" id="o622">
In general, you should report build time errors against the <i>live-build</i> package, boot time errors against <i>live-boot</i>, and run time errors against <i>live-config</i>. If you are unsure of which package is appropriate or need more help before submitting a bug report, please send a message to the mailing list and we will help you to figure it out.
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